Do you agree with Pete Hegseth's comment that Obama created a moral divide between military and civilian life?
Last Updated: 01.07.2025 17:04
Did he actually say it? When and in what context?
I’ve heard that he is opposed to Women in combat roles. While many changes occured in military doctrine under Obama, these are not really attributed to Obama but to changes in our society more broadly. Women admitted to military academies. Women admitted to combat roles based on demonstrated fitness for such service, and based in part on womens’ own determination to seek service in those kinds of roles. These are an outgrowth of women’s own desires to break out of traditional roles as restrictive and the fact that those women want to explore their own personal capabilities and stretch traditional boundaries of womanhood.
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Plenty of women have proven they are capable of serving in combat with honor and distinction. Service members such as Tammy Duckworth heroicly being injured in combat, losing both legs and doing so with the same honor and courage as men. She was co-piloting a Blackhawk helicopter when hit by a rocket propelled grenade. She was awarded the Purple Heart, Air Medal, and Air Force Commendation Medal, but none of this was under Obama. In 2004, she was wounded in service to the Bush administration.
Has advocated fewer benefits for injured Veterans because long term support for injured Veterans is “contrary to an Ethos of service”.
I would imagine the “moral divide” refers to the acceptance of gays in the military, but I’ve seen no evidence that this is what the OP or Hegseth may be referring to.
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Since the Hegseth bio says he was a Platoon Leader in the Minnesota National Guard, I would view Hegseth’s understanding of the moral divide as seriously as I would Gomer Pyle’s platoon Sergeant.
Regarding his “moral divide”, as stated in the original question, Hegseth has:
Nineteen countries permit women in most combat roles. Similarly the only developed nation which excludes gays from their military is South Korea.
Taking a bit more serious tone:
I’ve since (in a couple of days) read a bit more about Hegseth’s background and views. The article I read addressed a controversy about a tatoo as being associated with a right wing Christian Nationalist group which espouses a goal of incorporating Old Testament rules into American life and American laws.
WTF was he talking about? I’ve never seen a linkage of morality between the military and civilian life. Soldiers are regularly asked to do things which are immoral in a civilian context, and ALWAYS HAVE HAD A MORAL DIVIDE.
Addendum:
A more reasoned approach IF I TOOK THIS QUESTION SERIOUSLY (which I do not) would be to research a little.
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Urged President Trump in his first term to pardon soldiers accused of war crimes (shooting unarmed civilians).
If these are the kinds of military moral divides Hegseth has argued against, I suggest he wake up in the 21st Century.
This shows his desire for “moral equivalence” between the military and civilian US is very different from what many average Americans would regard as “moral”. Regarding Hegseth’s views of “morality”,
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Voiced praise for Waterboarding.
Regarding moral concerns about using nuclear weapons said “Who cares - they lost” about the Japanese.
My first reaction to this is confusion and astonishment. But then, I recall that Hegseth was a Fox commentator and I imagine all manner of incomprehensible crap being on the menu.